Jamal Simmons and Matt Butler are joined by longtime Wisconsin operative Joe Zepecki to break down one of the wildest primaries of the cycle: David Crowley’s stunning comeback from 20 points down to beat Francesca Hong for the Democratic nomination for Governor. Zepecki explains how the Crowley campaign clawed back, why the polls weren’t as wrong as they looked, and what it’ll take to unite Hong and Crowley voters ahead of a must-win fall matchup against MAGA Republican Tom Tiffany. They dig into why this race is about far more than one governorship — it’s about who certifies Wisconsin’s 2028 presidential results and whether Democrats can finally win a blue trifecta and redraw fairer congressional maps. Plus: lessons on polling primaries versus general elections, Rebecca Cooke’s rematch in WI-3, Pete Buttigieg’s swing through the state, and why every 2028 hopeful needs to prove they can win in Wisconsin.
Jamal Simmons 
Matthew Butler