How the Heck Are We Gonna Get Along

Mary Trump

August 13, 2021

In This Episode:

Clay welcomes  Dr. Mary Trump, niece of the former President, to look at the trauma our nation still has to reckon with from its history– starting with the pandemic, a contested election and race relations– and that’s only from the last few years.  What were the forces and personality traits that drove Donald Trump to the White House?  And why was his presidency so effective at bringing out our divisions?  Now that they’re out in the open– how do we move on?


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